MULTIVERSE has defederated fedinsfw.app for hosting child pornography
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Ok, my friend. Go outside for a walk and enjoy the weather and let that noggin have a rest from thinking so much.
PS. That was not an accusation but an observation of the normalisation of porn in all its varieties that suggests it would be remotely needed to distance one self from kiddy porn. I understand why, with jailbaits and ageplay kinks and hentai and furry depictions of 800 year old witches that look like children mixed in with all other porn in the endless flow. But for people that are not desensitised to having porn exposure 24/7, it is really weird for somebody to mention that they are not into child abuse. Not being into kiddie porn is the normal that does not have to be declared.
Sadly the weather here sucks currently, but thanks. I hope you have a nice day.
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TIL a significant minority of Lemmy/Piefed users like to look at or reserve the right to be able to look at pornography where the actors bear resemblance to children. And the best arguments they have is FReE sPeEcH and iTs NoT iLleGaL.
Yuk.
I understand the ease of downvoting, but the lack of well laid out arguments gives this entire platform a very yukkie vibe to me.
There are at least 3 comments with well laid arguments (hint, they have way more up votes than the post). You have answered to none of them.
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cross-posted from: https://multiverse.soulism.net/c/soulism/p/51754/multiverse-has-defederated-fedinsfw-app-for-hosting-child-pornography
Hello MULTIVERSE users and off-site visitors alike. We have recently defederated fedinsfw.app due to ongoing child pornography concerns which the fedinsfw admin team are aware of, and do not intend to address. Before I explain the key issue, I’d like to define a few terms:
- In Australia, Child Pornography Material is legally defined by the Criminal Code Act 1995, section 473.1 as:
(a) material that depicts a person, or a representation of a person, who is, or appears to be, under 18 years of age and who is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose […]; and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive;
[…]
material that describes a person who is, or is implied to be, under 18 years of age and who […] is engaged in, or is implied to be engaged in, a sexual pose […]; and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive; or […]-
Jailbait is a slang term for pornography depicting subjects who appear to be of age (adults), but are in fact underage (children; adolescents)
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Fauxbait is faux jailbait - pornography depicting adults who appear to be children who appear to be adults.
According to the legal definition of child pornography material here in Australia, fauxbait is child pornography material, because of the implication that the actors depicted represent underage persons. And frankly, we here at MULTIVERSE agree with the law here. Fauxbait is disgusting. Legally and in our opinion, pornography depicting adult women who appear as adults is completely fine. But if someone posts a picture of an adult woman and calls it “fauxbait”, we are disgusted and the law is interested. Reality is not objective - the same legal picture of an adult person becomes illegal child pornography when it’s posted with a particular framing.
fedinsfw.app hosts a community, [email protected], which is for Fauxbait. I have contacted the admin of the site, @[email protected], both privately and in public, pointing out that the community breaks the site’s rules 1 and 8. The admin disagrees. Although they dislike the community, they don’t believe it breaks the rules, and do not wish to violate their impartiality by banning the community.
We here at MULTIVERSE have no such impartiality. The admin inaction on child pornography violates our Rule 3 on Restricted Violence, in that it’s fucking nasty. It’s degrading to the women being posted to call them fauxbait, it’s dangerous towards the users to expose them to risks of committing sex crimes, and it has the potential to desensitise people to child porn, making them more likely to re-offend in worse ways. We are joining the growing movement of instances defederating fedinsfw.app, and we ask if your instance has not, that you speak to your admins and ask them to do the same.
wrote on last edited by [email protected][>]you post one legal pornography
[>]i leave a comment that someone in the legal pornography resembles a minor despite the fact that they do not
[>]you get in trouble
great
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There are at least 3 comments with well laid arguments (hint, they have way more up votes than the post). You have answered to none of them.
I’ll just quote you to yourself, as we’re pretty much on the same page:
If you approve someone, you don’t need to explain yourself, you would just say “I agree with this guy”. There’s no substance to it.
However, if you downvote, you are saying “this is wrong”. Which is much different. When you accuse someone of being wrong, you should explain yourself, otherwise you’re being a dick.
It’s fine if someone already answered with what you were going to answer. You can just upvote that guy and move on.
EDIT: I’m absolutely in awe that this comment specifically gathered so many downvotes. And this is a good example of what I was referring to. Lots of people downvoted, and 0 ppl said why.
You may think that those upvotes explain the downvotes, but they really don’t. And they don’t to a small majority of the people, so perhaps you can help out. A good start would be:
You’re getting downvoted because
Or
I’m downvoting your post/comment because
Or if you feel the upvoted comments are indeed addressing my concern “legal porn that looks like CP is morally extremely questionable and either won’t help the growth of Lemmy or would attract people I rather not associate with”, you can copy paste it.
I also want to state this is occurring at a time where we are discovering pedophelia run all the way to the white house.
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Did you choose who you are attracted to or did you discover it?
You seem to mix some things up. There are pedophiles who have sexual attraction to children but know better, and there are people who rape children because they like the power imbalance.
The first group has simply discovered their attraction (and mostly beat themselves up over it) and would benefit from therapy and support, which they don’t get because of people like you. They also can benefit from things like “fauxbait”, where they can live out their kink without hurting anyone because there are only consenting adults in play.
The second group are in the Epstein files. They do it because they get off on the thought that someone is helpless. They are not pedophiles, they are simply the worst kind of rapist.
Make sure to direct your disgust on the second group, not the first, because the first one doesn’t deserve it.
I agree that there’s a big difference between natural pedophiles (pedophilia as a sexuality) and Epstein pedophiles (pedophilia as a kink).
The research that I’ve read on the subject suggests that Epstein pedophiles are opportunistic - they offend when there is an opportunity to do so. That could be having a martini on Epstein’s island, or it could be browsing Reddit and seeing a post from r/jailbait. During that first encounter, if the person has enough excuses to be able to say it’s not that bad, it’s not illegal, it’s not actually harming anyone, then they are likely to seek out more “content” and re-offend in worse ways.
In other words, if we make cruelty free imitation child porn available to natural pedophiles, we’re going to create more Epstein pedophiles. We’re not actually helping by doing that. It’s counterproductive.
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I’ll just quote you to yourself, as we’re pretty much on the same page:
If you approve someone, you don’t need to explain yourself, you would just say “I agree with this guy”. There’s no substance to it.
However, if you downvote, you are saying “this is wrong”. Which is much different. When you accuse someone of being wrong, you should explain yourself, otherwise you’re being a dick.
It’s fine if someone already answered with what you were going to answer. You can just upvote that guy and move on.
EDIT: I’m absolutely in awe that this comment specifically gathered so many downvotes. And this is a good example of what I was referring to. Lots of people downvoted, and 0 ppl said why.
You may think that those upvotes explain the downvotes, but they really don’t. And they don’t to a small majority of the people, so perhaps you can help out. A good start would be:
You’re getting downvoted because
Or
I’m downvoting your post/comment because
Or if you feel the upvoted comments are indeed addressing my concern “legal porn that looks like CP is morally extremely questionable and either won’t help the growth of Lemmy or would attract people I rather not associate with”, you can copy paste it.
I also want to state this is occurring at a time where we are discovering pedophelia run all the way to the white house.
You went through my comment history and quoted me, to just not read the whole quote.
Here, I’ll help you:
It’s fine if someone already answered with what you were going to answer. You can just upvote that guy and move on.
As I said, there are already 3 top comments explaining to you why you’re being downvoted. I don’t need to explain myself when I mostly agree with them, I just upvote them.
If everyone had to explain every downvote, we would have hundreds of comments on each post, and most of them would say the same thing.
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You went through my comment history and quoted me, to just not read the whole quote.
Here, I’ll help you:
It’s fine if someone already answered with what you were going to answer. You can just upvote that guy and move on.
As I said, there are already 3 top comments explaining to you why you’re being downvoted. I don’t need to explain myself when I mostly agree with them, I just upvote them.
If everyone had to explain every downvote, we would have hundreds of comments on each post, and most of them would say the same thing.
I think we’ve exhausted this discourse. Peace
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lmao it is so funny that Rimu will hardcode penalties for any piefed instance that federates with the tankie triad but has no problems with people using his software for child porn
really shows his prioritiesThis got removed the admin? Fucking lol
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cross-posted from: https://multiverse.soulism.net/c/soulism/p/51754/multiverse-has-defederated-fedinsfw-app-for-hosting-child-pornography
Hello MULTIVERSE users and off-site visitors alike. We have recently defederated fedinsfw.app due to ongoing child pornography concerns which the fedinsfw admin team are aware of, and do not intend to address. Before I explain the key issue, I’d like to define a few terms:
- In Australia, Child Pornography Material is legally defined by the Criminal Code Act 1995, section 473.1 as:
(a) material that depicts a person, or a representation of a person, who is, or appears to be, under 18 years of age and who is engaged in, or appears to be engaged in, a sexual pose […]; and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive;
[…]
material that describes a person who is, or is implied to be, under 18 years of age and who […] is engaged in, or is implied to be engaged in, a sexual pose […]; and does this in a way that reasonable persons would regard as being, in all the circumstances, offensive; or […]-
Jailbait is a slang term for pornography depicting subjects who appear to be of age (adults), but are in fact underage (children; adolescents)
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Fauxbait is faux jailbait - pornography depicting adults who appear to be children who appear to be adults.
According to the legal definition of child pornography material here in Australia, fauxbait is child pornography material, because of the implication that the actors depicted represent underage persons. And frankly, we here at MULTIVERSE agree with the law here. Fauxbait is disgusting. Legally and in our opinion, pornography depicting adult women who appear as adults is completely fine. But if someone posts a picture of an adult woman and calls it “fauxbait”, we are disgusted and the law is interested. Reality is not objective - the same legal picture of an adult person becomes illegal child pornography when it’s posted with a particular framing.
fedinsfw.app hosts a community, [email protected], which is for Fauxbait. I have contacted the admin of the site, @[email protected], both privately and in public, pointing out that the community breaks the site’s rules 1 and 8. The admin disagrees. Although they dislike the community, they don’t believe it breaks the rules, and do not wish to violate their impartiality by banning the community.
We here at MULTIVERSE have no such impartiality. The admin inaction on child pornography violates our Rule 3 on Restricted Violence, in that it’s fucking nasty. It’s degrading to the women being posted to call them fauxbait, it’s dangerous towards the users to expose them to risks of committing sex crimes, and it has the potential to desensitise people to child porn, making them more likely to re-offend in worse ways. We are joining the growing movement of instances defederating fedinsfw.app, and we ask if your instance has not, that you speak to your admins and ask them to do the same.
As a feddit.org user, I’m really interested how this discussion about instances obeying local laws will turn out when it’s about child porn.
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As a feddit.org user, I’m really interested how this discussion about instances obeying local laws will turn out when it’s about child porn.
For the record, I believe feddit.org goes far beyond the legal requirements with respect to zionist hate speech.
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