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  • teknevra@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
    teknevra@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote on last edited by [email protected]
    #1

    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43657336

    So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

    What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


    And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

    A full-on journalism operation that is:

    Fediverse-first

    Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

    Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


    Two Possible Models

    1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

    A structured newsroom:

    Editors, reporters, correspondents

    Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

    Clip distribution via Loops

    Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

    Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

    Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


    1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

    Think:

    Independent PeerTubers collaborating

    Loop creators reporting locally

    Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

    Citizen journalism amplified through federation

    This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


    Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

    Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

    World Socialist Web Site

    Communist.red

    Mother Jones

    The Nation

    Common Dreams

    The Intercept

    Jacobin

    Cpusa.org

    (And many others.)


    Podcasts:

    The Deprogram:

    https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

    Revolutionary Left Radio:

    https://revleftradio.com/

    Guerrilla History:

    https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

    etc


    YouTubers:

    https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

    Second Thought:

    https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

    YUGOPNIK:

    https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

    r/TankieTheDeprogram

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

    r/TheDeprogarm

    https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

    Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

    https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

    Chris Hedges

    https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

    Jimmy Dore

    https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


    Maybe:

    A federated aggregator

    A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

    A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

    Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

    https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


    Big Questions

    Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

    How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

    Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

    Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

    Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


    Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

    Curious what everyone thinks.

    Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


    Link to same post, but on Reddit:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

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    • teknevra@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43657336

      So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

      What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


      And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

      A full-on journalism operation that is:

      Fediverse-first

      Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

      Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


      Two Possible Models

      1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

      A structured newsroom:

      Editors, reporters, correspondents

      Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

      Clip distribution via Loops

      Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

      Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

      Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


      1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

      Think:

      Independent PeerTubers collaborating

      Loop creators reporting locally

      Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

      Citizen journalism amplified through federation

      This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


      Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

      Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

      World Socialist Web Site

      Communist.red

      Mother Jones

      The Nation

      Common Dreams

      The Intercept

      Jacobin

      Cpusa.org

      (And many others.)


      Podcasts:

      The Deprogram:

      https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

      Revolutionary Left Radio:

      https://revleftradio.com/

      Guerrilla History:

      https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

      etc


      YouTubers:

      https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

      Second Thought:

      https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

      YUGOPNIK:

      https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

      r/TankieTheDeprogram

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

      r/TheDeprogarm

      https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

      Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

      https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

      Chris Hedges

      https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

      Jimmy Dore

      https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


      Maybe:

      A federated aggregator

      A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

      A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

      Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

      https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


      Big Questions

      Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

      How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

      Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

      Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

      Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


      Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

      Curious what everyone thinks.

      Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


      Link to same post, but on Reddit:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

      S This user is from outside of this forum
      S This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Might be interesting but with the same sources of funding we could also have our own space program. It would be really cool to have interplanetary missions and maybe even interstellar ones. People don’t always realize that the United Federation of Planets began as a fediverse project! Why stop with a newsroom once enough imaginary resources can be deployed?

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      • teknevra@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43657336

        So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

        What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


        And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

        A full-on journalism operation that is:

        Fediverse-first

        Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

        Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


        Two Possible Models

        1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

        A structured newsroom:

        Editors, reporters, correspondents

        Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

        Clip distribution via Loops

        Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

        Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

        Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


        1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

        Think:

        Independent PeerTubers collaborating

        Loop creators reporting locally

        Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

        Citizen journalism amplified through federation

        This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


        Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

        Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

        World Socialist Web Site

        Communist.red

        Mother Jones

        The Nation

        Common Dreams

        The Intercept

        Jacobin

        Cpusa.org

        (And many others.)


        Podcasts:

        The Deprogram:

        https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

        Revolutionary Left Radio:

        https://revleftradio.com/

        Guerrilla History:

        https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

        etc


        YouTubers:

        https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

        Second Thought:

        https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

        YUGOPNIK:

        https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

        r/TankieTheDeprogram

        https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

        r/TheDeprogarm

        https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

        Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

        https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

        Chris Hedges

        https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

        Jimmy Dore

        https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


        Maybe:

        A federated aggregator

        A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

        A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

        Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

        https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


        Big Questions

        Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

        How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

        Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

        Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

        Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


        Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

        Curious what everyone thinks.

        Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


        Link to same post, but on Reddit:

        https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

        F This user is from outside of this forum
        F This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        It’s your idea, you tell us what it would look like to you. Because we have plenty of people doing journalism and using federated platforms as their primary platforms.

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        • teknevra@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43657336

          So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

          What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


          And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

          A full-on journalism operation that is:

          Fediverse-first

          Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

          Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


          Two Possible Models

          1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

          A structured newsroom:

          Editors, reporters, correspondents

          Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

          Clip distribution via Loops

          Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

          Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

          Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


          1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

          Think:

          Independent PeerTubers collaborating

          Loop creators reporting locally

          Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

          Citizen journalism amplified through federation

          This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


          Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

          Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

          World Socialist Web Site

          Communist.red

          Mother Jones

          The Nation

          Common Dreams

          The Intercept

          Jacobin

          Cpusa.org

          (And many others.)


          Podcasts:

          The Deprogram:

          https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

          Revolutionary Left Radio:

          https://revleftradio.com/

          Guerrilla History:

          https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

          etc


          YouTubers:

          https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

          Second Thought:

          https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

          YUGOPNIK:

          https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

          r/TankieTheDeprogram

          https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

          r/TheDeprogarm

          https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

          Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

          https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

          Chris Hedges

          https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

          Jimmy Dore

          https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


          Maybe:

          A federated aggregator

          A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

          A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

          Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

          https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


          Big Questions

          Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

          How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

          Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

          Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

          Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


          Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

          Curious what everyone thinks.

          Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


          Link to same post, but on Reddit:

          https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

          L This user is from outside of this forum
          L This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          You posted this 2 hours ago. However I read this same post yesterday.

          …you a bot?

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          • L [email protected]

            You posted this 2 hours ago. However I read this same post yesterday.

            …you a bot?

            teknevra@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
            teknevra@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            No I am not

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            • teknevra@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

              No I am not

              L This user is from outside of this forum
              L This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Oh yeah? What’s your favorite curse word, and what’s your favorite display of violent imagery.

              Me personally I’m partial to the french killing the wealthy with a guillitine.

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              • teknevra@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43657336

                So I’ve been thinking about the whole PSKY winning the bid for WBD situation, plus a ton of other US News sites being owned and controlled by MAGA — and now that PSKY owns massive legacy brands like CNN and platforms like TikTok, it got me wondering:

                What would it look like if the Fediverse built its own large-scale news station?


                And I don’t mean news apps (I know things like Flipboard already exist and are experimenting with federation). I mean:

                A full-on journalism operation that is:

                Fediverse-first

                Hosted via PeerTube, Loops, its own website, etc.

                Producing regular news broadcasts, investigative journalism, live streams, analysis panels, documentaries, etc.


                Two Possible Models

                1. Professional Model (CNN-style equivalent)

                A structured newsroom:

                Editors, reporters, correspondents

                Daily live broadcasts via PeerTube

                Clip distribution via Loops

                Federation across Mastodon/Lemmy/Pixelfed

                Transparent funding (co-op model? public donations? instance-backed?)

                Essentially: a decentralized alternative to cable news, but not algorithm-driven or corporate-owned.


                1. Amateur / Grassroots Model

                Think:

                Independent PeerTubers collaborating

                Loop creators reporting locally

                Lemmy communities functioning as distributed editorial desks

                Citizen journalism amplified through federation

                This could look more like a decentralized wire service, where stories propagate organically across instances.


                Alternative Idea: Federated News Aggregator

                Instead of building from scratch, what if the Fediverse collaborated with existing independent outlets like:

                World Socialist Web Site

                Communist.red

                Mother Jones

                The Nation

                Common Dreams

                The Intercept

                Jacobin

                Cpusa.org

                (And many others.)


                Podcasts:

                The Deprogram:

                https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/The_Deprogram

                Revolutionary Left Radio:

                https://revleftradio.com/

                Guerrilla History:

                https://guerrillahistory.libsyn.com/

                etc


                YouTubers:

                https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Hakim

                Second Thought:

                https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Second_Thought

                YUGOPNIK:

                https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/YUGOPNIK

                r/TankieTheDeprogram

                https://www.reddit.com/r/TankieTheDeprogram/s/mJqfxpGOYK

                r/TheDeprogarm

                https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogarm/s/Re7CYFSaSW

                Lee Camp-Unredacted Tonight

                https://youtube.com/@unredactedtonight

                Chris Hedges

                https://youtube.com/@chrishedgeschannel

                Jimmy Dore

                https://youtube.com/@thejimmydoreshow


                Maybe:

                A federated aggregator

                A shared ActivityPub-based publishing layer

                A “news hub” instance that boosts and categorizes content

                Or something similar to the federated streaming marketplace idea I suggested before — but for journalism instead of an Amazon Prime alternative

                https://lemmy.world/post/40697282


                Big Questions

                Would a Fediverse news network increase credibility — or fragment it?

                How would editorial standards work in a decentralized ecosystem?

                Could co-op funding sustain professional reporting?

                Would mainstream journalists ever migrate?

                Should this aim to compete with centralized media — or complement it?


                Also: would this risk becoming ideologically siloed? Or would federation naturally diversify perspectives?

                Curious what everyone thinks.

                Is this unrealistic? Inevitable? Already quietly happening?


                Link to same post, but on Reddit:

                https://www.reddit.com/r/fediverse/s/wt59TIXVv3

                J This user is from outside of this forum
                J This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                They aren’t fediverse-first, and they’re French-based/French-focused/French-language-only, but Blast is an online, video-first news station that hosts their own peertube instance (https://video.blast-info.fr/) where they upload everything as well as putting their videos on YouTube. They also have a mastodon account where they share everything they publish: https://mamot.fr/@blast_info.

                So, it’s definitely possible to have news on the fediverse, but I don’t think we’re at a point where it can be exclusively on the fedi - even if the stations’ website is ActivityPub-enabled, the majority of the people that a news station would want to reach just aren’t browsing the fediverse, let alone have accounts here.

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