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  3. I seem to remember an instance somewhere had a quite great idea, they would have their admin team request a bottle of wine or similar plus a picture of the payment voucher as a form of adult identification.

I seem to remember an instance somewhere had a quite great idea, they would have their admin team request a bottle of wine or similar plus a picture of the payment voucher as a form of adult identification.

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    I seem to remember an instance somewhere had a quite great idea, they would have their admin team request a bottle of wine or similar plus a picture of the payment voucher as a form of adult identification. Their argument was that if someone can legally buy drinks then they are legally adult, and thus they could verify with that without ever requiring any sort of PII.

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      I seem to remember an instance somewhere had a quite great idea, they would have their admin team request a bottle of wine or similar plus a picture of the payment voucher as a form of adult identification. Their argument was that if someone can legally buy drinks then they are legally adult, and thus they could verify with that without ever requiring any sort of PII.

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      A receipt from alcohol purchase seems equally as valid as a govt ID. One could falsify either by just stealing someone else’s.

      And until these whackadoo politicians decide they’re going to provide the tools or other guidance on exactly how to verify someone’s age, it seems appropriate.

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        A receipt from alcohol purchase seems equally as valid as a govt ID. One could falsify either by just stealing someone else’s.

        And until these whackadoo politicians decide they’re going to provide the tools or other guidance on exactly how to verify someone’s age, it seems appropriate.

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        You could probably pick up a receipt from alcohol purchase from the ground outside any liquor store…

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          You could probably pick up a receipt from alcohol purchase from the ground outside any liquor store…

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          And you could ask any random adult to borrow their ID, as I said.

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            And you could ask any random adult to borrow their ID, as I said.

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            One requires an adult participant, one doesn’t.

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              One requires an adult participant, one doesn’t.

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              Getting a receipt also requires an adult participant. People don’t make a habit of tossing alcohol receipts on the ground.

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                Getting a receipt also requires an adult participant. People don’t make a habit of tossing alcohol receipts on the ground.

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                Much more so than passports or other identity documents. Come on, man, what point are you actually arguing here?

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                  Much more so than passports or other identity documents. Come on, man, what point are you actually arguing here?

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                  I could ask you the same question.

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                    I could ask you the same question.

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                    I thought it was quite clear. Verifying your age with an alcohol purchase receipt is a dumb idea for a large variety of reasons, including ease of acquiring one, ease of copying images, ease of printing one yourself and the cumulative ease of doing all this without an actual adult willingly involved in your scheme. It’s is not nearly as fool proof as verifying government ID.

                    Of course, I’m against all invasive forms of age verification. Doesn’t mean I’m going to advocate for a rally bad alternative either.

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                      I thought it was quite clear. Verifying your age with an alcohol purchase receipt is a dumb idea for a large variety of reasons, including ease of acquiring one, ease of copying images, ease of printing one yourself and the cumulative ease of doing all this without an actual adult willingly involved in your scheme. It’s is not nearly as fool proof as verifying government ID.

                      Of course, I’m against all invasive forms of age verification. Doesn’t mean I’m going to advocate for a rally bad alternative either.

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                      They’re both dumb ideas. That’s the point.

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